Cadet57 wrote:I'm not a racist. I'll ask you again. How is being redneck a race? You arent a different color.
PA110 wrote:I don't think the term redneck can be construed as racist, that's just my personal opinion. While all rednecks are white, not all whites are rednecks, and therein lies the difference. Racial slurs usually apply across the board to encompass all members of that race, where as the term redneck is more specific to geographic location and socio-economic standing.
Mark wrote:FWIW, the last time I heard the terms "wetback" and "porch monkey" was in 1977 during ethnic sensativity class in high school.
jpetekUA777 wrote:PA110 wrote:I don't think the term redneck can be construed as racist, that's just my personal opinion. While all rednecks are white, not all whites are rednecks, and therein lies the difference. Racial slurs usually apply across the board to encompass all members of that race, where as the term redneck is more specific to geographic location and socio-economic standing.
Agreed! But rednecks can be pretty rich too, and I bet a lot of of 'rednecks' would take a degree of pride in the term too.
Not all African Americans are porch monkies, nor all hispanics wetbacks, yet these terms are racist.PA110 wrote: While all rednecks are white, not all whites are rednecks, and therein lies the difference.
I've heard them both and more in the last week.Mark wrote:FWIW, the last time I heard the terms "wetback" and "porch monkey" was in 1977 during ethnic sensativity class in high school.
Mark wrote:FWIW, the last time I heard the terms "wetback" and "porch monkey" was in 1977 during ethnic sensativity class in high school.
GQfluffy wrote:Mark wrote:FWIW, the last time I heard the terms "wetback" and "porch monkey" was in 1977 during ethnic sensativity class in high school.
1977? You sure it wasn't a Chevy Chase/Richard Pryor SNL skit?
Queso wrote:Mark wrote:FWIW, the last time I heard the terms "wetback" and "porch monkey" was in 1977 during ethnic sensativity class in high school.
I hear "wetback" at least once a day.
Click Click D'oh wrote:Actually, porch monkey is a term directed at a specific behavior that originates from when most black people in the south were to poor to afford air conditioning and would sit on the porches of their houses.
Click Click D'oh wrote:Words have meaning, learn them.
Queso wrote:That's not true at all! As an example, Certain people would use terms such as those to describe people exhibiting urban thug rapper culture but would not use those terms for people like, for instance, Clarence Gilyard Jr., Denzel Washington, and Ving Rhames.
Mark wrote:Queso wrote:Mark wrote:FWIW, the last time I heard the terms "wetback" and "porch monkey" was in 1977 during ethnic sensativity class in high school.
I hear "wetback" at least once a day.
Hmmmm... We just call 'em Hispanics here.
davestan_ksan wrote:No offense, but by the posts you've made I think you know the literal definition of the words, but I don't think you understand how they are used today.
Click Click D'oh wrote:Ah, so it's my fault people don't know the meaning of the words they use...
What a terrible, tragic comedy we have written ourselves into...
Queso wrote:Mark wrote:
Hmmmm... We just call 'em Hispanics here.
Why even bother with the distinction? Why can't they just be "people"? And why label the guy in the OP as a "redneck", why not just say you saw an "interesting fellow"?
davestan_ksan wrote:Click Click D'oh wrote:Ah, so it's my fault people don't know the meaning of the words they use...
Yup.
davestan_ksan wrote:The meanings of words evolve. "Cool" replaced "hip." "Sick," or "tight" can be used as "cool" as well. Were they originally intended to mean that? Nope, not if you look up their original definition.
jpetekUA777 wrote: The fact of the matter is that redneck is considered a pretty socially acceptable term...
n. Offensive Slang
1. Used as a disparaging term for a member of the white rural laboring class, especially in the southern United States.
2. A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude.
Mark wrote:.... if I met someone fulfilling the common description of a New Jersey guido, I'd probably take note, too.
Click Click D'oh wrote:
Yeah, the dictionary seems to think it's not a socially acceptable term..
Unless "offensive" and "disparaging" changed meanings too...
jpetekUA777 wrote:Yeah, go to the dictionary to find the practical application of the term in its modern usage.
Click Click D'oh wrote:Mark wrote:.... if I met someone fulfilling the common description of a New Jersey guido, I'd probably take note, too.
You do know that calling anybody of Italian American ancestory a Guido is extreamly offensive right? Please tell me you knew that....
Click Click D'oh wrote:Cadet57 wrote:I'm not a racist. I'll ask you again. How is being redneck a race? You arent a different color.
Does or does not the term refer specifically to one ethicity?
Don't worry, you already admitted it does.
So, we have a pejorative term, applicable to only one ethnicity of people... and this isn't racist to you? Yet Porch Monkey is? How does that work?