Airspace Dispute Between China And Japan

Allstarflyer (Database Editor & Founding Member) 25 Nov 13, 18:06

China is winning so far -

BEIJING/TOKYO (Reuters) - Asian airlines will inform China of their flight plans before entering airspace over waters disputed with Japan, regional aviation officials said on Monday, effectively acknowledging Beijing's authority over a newly declared "Air Defense Identification Zone".

China published coordinates for the zone on the weekend. The area, about two-thirds the size of the United Kingdom, covers most of the East China Sea and the skies over a group of uninhabited islands at the centre of a bitter row between Beijing and Tokyo.

Even Japanese carriers are acknowledging this. I don't think this will simmer soon since Japan bought some of the islands in dispute.

GQfluffy (Database Editor & Founding Member) 26 Nov 13, 19:46

http://news.yahoo.com/us-flies-b-52-bombers-chinas-air-defense-172803843.html

The US doesn't seem to agree with China's claim.

Two US B-52 bombers flew over a disputed area of the East China Sea without informing Beijing, US officials said Tuesday, challenging China's bid to create an expanded "air defense zone."...

...No flight plan was submitted beforehand to the Chinese and the mission went ahead "without incident," Warren said.

The two aircraft spent "less than an hour" in China's unilaterally-declared Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ) and did not encounter Chinese planes, he said.

Good.

Teller of no, fixer of everything, friend of the unimportant and all around good guy; the CAD Monkey

DXing 27 Nov 13, 01:45

The U.S. Air Force can probably get away with it but civil airlines are a different matter. There is now a notam out to file your flight plan with the Chinese authorities. I'm guessing if you didn't do it the Chinese would first say you can't fly to any destination in China anymore. I'm surprised that Taiwan hasn't spoken up as part of the zone also cover the northern tip of their airspace.

What's the point of an open door policy if inside the open door sits a closed mind?

CO777ER (Database Editor & Founding Member) 27 Nov 13, 01:56

The US should declare it an American ADIZ for the hell of it.

DXing 01 Dec 13, 00:31

U.S. carriers are now complying with the NOTAM but Japanese airlines have ignored it and continue to fly through without notifying the Chinese.

What's the point of an open door policy if inside the open door sits a closed mind?

CO777ER (Database Editor & Founding Member) 08 Dec 13, 07:59

South Korea has joined the party.

Again, the US should declare it an American ADIZ in the interest of Japan and South Korea.

DXing 09 Dec 13, 02:39

I remain amazed that Taiwan has not spoken up since their airpace is included in the ADIZ as well.

What's the point of an open door policy if inside the open door sits a closed mind?

DXing 14 Dec 13, 04:29

And now the dispute is coming down to the high seas.......

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/13/politics/ ... rontation/

(CNN) -- A U.S. Navy guided missile cruiser took evasive action to avoid colliding with a Chinese warship in the South China Sea in what sources called a highly unusual and deliberate act by China, CNN has learned

Wonder how much damage the ships 5 inch gun could have inflicted on the tank lander?

What's the point of an open door policy if inside the open door sits a closed mind?

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