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Zak (netAirspace FAA) 29 Sep 10, 21:22Post
Tha planet is Gliese 581g, one of at least six low-mass worlds orbiting the dim red-dwarf star Gliese 581 just 20 light-years away in Libra. The orbits were teased apart from 240 high-precision radial-velocity measurements, spanning 11 years, tracking the tiny gravitational wobbles that the planets induce in the star.

The star is Gliese 581, a dim M3 dwarf with about a third the Sun's a diameter, a third the Sun's mass, and 1.3% of the Sun's energy output. Although it's one of our near stellar neighbors, it shines at only magnitude 10.6; it's visible in most amateur telescopes but not binoculars (at right ascension 15h 19.4m, declination –7° 43′).

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/104031014.html

The planet is in the "Goldilocks zone" of space around a star where surface temperatures are neither too hot nor too cold for liquid water to form.

"Our findings offer a very compelling case for a potentially habitable planet," said Steven Vogt, an astronomer at the University of California, Santa Cruz. "The fact that we were able to detect this planet so quickly and so nearby tells us that planets like this must be really common."

If confirmed, the planet would be the most Earth-like that has ever been discovered in another solar system and the first strong contender for a habitable one.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/ ... liese-581g

This sounds pretty fascinating, and with only 20 light years away, it's not even totally out of reach.
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ANCFlyer (netAirspace ATC & Founding Member) 29 Sep 10, 21:27Post
Send me. I'll G2 it and get back to everyone in a hundred years or so.

Seriously, we - humans - can't be so arrogant to think there's not some other place out there in this big universe. I think our potential for space travel has been so messed up in the last twenty years, we should have already sent men to Mars . . . amongst other things.

But I digress . . .

Bring on Warp Drive, I could be out to Gliese 581g in a few hours . . . :))
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JeffSFO (Photo Quality Screener & Founding Member) 29 Sep 10, 21:27Post
Zak wrote:This sounds pretty fascinating, and with only 20 light years away, it's not even totally out of reach.


Yes, fascinating, but not out of reach? {boggled}
Zak (netAirspace FAA) 29 Sep 10, 21:38Post
JeffSFO wrote:Yes, fascinating, but not out of reach? {boggled}

It's a mere 189,214,609,451,616 kilometers - rumor has it that PlymSpotter travelled further in his life already. :))

Okay - you and me (and Pep ;) ) can't go there for the weekend, but for space standards, 20 light years isn't really that far away. The fastest man-made object so far, the Helios probe, reached a speed of approx. 240,000 km/h. That means it would need 788,394,206 hours to reach Gliese 581g. That is only 90,000 years. A stone's throw in space travel... ;)
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futurecaptain 29 Sep 10, 21:49Post
Zak wrote:That is only 90,000 years.


Thats a short flight. Will they be charging for food and bags or are they free? :))
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AndesSMF (Founding Member) 29 Sep 10, 22:47Post
The system was already well-known to contain planets, and for a while I thought this was an old story. Guess they found a new one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_581
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Boris (Founding Member) 29 Sep 10, 22:51Post
AndesSMF wrote:The system was already well-known to contain planets, and for a while I thought this was an old story. Guess they found a new one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_581

From Andes' link:

It has since been shown that under known terrestrial planet climate models, Gliese 581 c is likely to have a runaway greenhouse effect, and hence is probably not habitable.

We're not even there yet and they've got global warming... {bugeye}

Zak wrote:This sounds pretty fascinating, and with only 20 light years away, it's not even totally out of reach.

Unfortunately, these days even the Moon is totally out of reach, and it's only 1.3 light seconds away... 8)
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da man (Space Guru & Founding Member) 30 Sep 10, 04:59Post
NASA PAO has a video about this discovery now posted on its YouTube account:
Zak (netAirspace FAA) 30 Sep 10, 08:50Post
AndesSMF wrote:The system was already well-known to contain planets, and for a while I thought this was an old story. Guess they found a new one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_581

The interesting part here is not that they discovered a planet, but that it is in the habitable zone of the star, and, now that the details of the planet have been researched, it seems to fulfil all prerequirements to be habitable, and that seems to be a first. However, the presence of water and a stable athmosphere are so far not proven, but only considered a strong possibility.

I suppose that a data transmission to Gliese 581g will be started soon. Should it be received and returned, we would know by 2050 if there is intelligent life on the planet.
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JLAmber (netAirspace ATC & Founding Member) 30 Sep 10, 23:06Post
It appears that the location of the planet is the same as the origin of a mysterious pulse of light that was reported two years ago:-

http://news1.capitalbay.com/news/gliese ... otted.html

An astronomer picked up a mysterious pulse of light coming from the direction of the newly discovered Earth-like planet almost two years ago, it has emerged.

Dr Ragbir Bhathal, a scientist at the University of Western Sydney, picked up the odd signal in December 2008, long before it was announced that the star Gliese 581 has habitable planets in orbit around it.

A member of the Australian chapter of SETI, the organisation that looks for communication from distant planets, Dr Bhathal had been sweeping the skies when he discovered a 'suspicious' signal from an area of the galaxy that holds the newly-discovered Gliese 581g.
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Lucas (netAirspace ATC & Founding Member) 01 Oct 10, 00:05Post
JLAmber wrote:It appears that the location of the planet is the same as the origin of a mysterious pulse of light that was reported two years ago:-

http://news1.capitalbay.com/news/gliese ... otted.html

An astronomer picked up a mysterious pulse of light coming from the direction of the newly discovered Earth-like planet almost two years ago, it has emerged.

Dr Ragbir Bhathal, a scientist at the University of Western Sydney, picked up the odd signal in December 2008, long before it was announced that the star Gliese 581 has habitable planets in orbit around it.

A member of the Australian chapter of SETI, the organisation that looks for communication from distant planets, Dr Bhathal had been sweeping the skies when he discovered a 'suspicious' signal from an area of the galaxy that holds the newly-discovered Gliese 581g.



Ahh, welp, they just nuked themselves in to oblivion, time to continue the search.
Zak (netAirspace FAA) 01 Oct 10, 07:08Post
Dr Ragbir Bhathal, a scientist at the University of Western Sydney, picked up the odd signal in December 2008

So if there is intelligent life over there, and the race will be named after their discoverer, we will deal with Bhathalians, then. Sounds a bit strange, but okay. We can only hope that it isn't a deadly insult in their language. :))

But going by the name, I wouldn't bet my money on that Dr. being from earth, either... {scratch}

Lucas wrote:Ahh, welp, they just nuked themselves in to oblivion

Good. Conquering them should have become easier, then. {mischief}

But let's keep the fingers crossed that the signal wasn't the guide beam for a weapon that will nuke us into oblivion.
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Zak (netAirspace FAA) 01 Oct 10, 07:45Post
On a more serious note, the article raises a few rather interesting questions. Not so much the light beam (there isn't really much information about it), but this part:

The remarkable coincidence adds another layer of mystery to the announcement last night that scientists had discovered Gliese 581g - the most Earth-like planet ever found.

And Dr Steven Vogt who led the study at the University of California, Santa Cruz, today said that he was '100 per cent sure ' that there was life on the planet.

The planet lies in the star's 'Goldilocks zone' - the region in space where conditions are neither too hot or too cold for liquid water to form oceans, lakes and rivers.

The planet also appears to have an atmosphere, a gravity like our own and could well be capable of life. Researchers say the findings suggest the universe is teeming with world like our own.

'If these are rare, we shouldn't have found one so quickly and so nearby,'

'The number of systems with potentially habitable planets is probably on the order of 10 or 20 per cent, and when you multiply that by the hundreds of billions of stars in the Milky Way, that's a large number. There could be tens of billions of these systems in our galaxy.'

He told Discovery News: 'Personally, given the ubiquity and propensity of life to flourish wherever it can, I would say that the chances for life on this planet are 100 percent. I have almost no doubt about it'.

While Dr. Vogt's statements seem to speak of a certain over-excitement, and the '100 per cent sure' thing may be more wishful thinking than solid research, he probably has a point by saying that, if habitable planets were so rare, we would not have found one so quickly and so nearby.

Even without the discovery of alien life (which may still be decades or centuries away), the discovery of Gliese 581g has the potential to change a few points of view. This may be wishful thinking on my part now, but let's hope that this will lead to better funding for space research and exploration.
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GQfluffy (Database Editor & Founding Member) 01 Oct 10, 12:31Post
Surely you can't be serious. {mischief}

Be seriously...what little noise this made has already been swept under the rug here in the states by the upcoming election. We are so screwed when it comes to bettering ourselves through space exploration, where honestly, the future lies. We've basically done about all we can with the Earth in terms of travel and exploration, but no one sees this.
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Allstarflyer (Database Editor & Founding Member) 01 Oct 10, 12:47Post
Zak wrote:Should it be received and returned, we would know by 2050 if there is intelligent life on the planet.

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