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I am fing sick of seeing and being bumped into by these things everywhere I go. If you are too fat or lazy to walk you should stay at home and spare me the sight of your ugly fat ass. America has turned into one fat, lazy, feed my ass for free, do as little work as humanly possible, place to be and I am sick of it! My girlfriend works at Walmart and has to deal with this scum all the time. The fatties hog the LHTs and the true cripples have to wait for them to return them. And when the fat asses are done with them they leave them in the parking lot blocking the cripple spaces (fat is now considered a handicap and you can get a parking permit for it in America) and the seats are always slimy and stink and the batteries are dead.

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With the rare exception of a genuine medical condition, how the hell does anyone let himself get to that stage? I'm 5'11", 200-210lbs, and already watching what I eat.

(OK, so today I've watched a massive fry-up, and I'm about to watch a whole shitload of currant buns smothered in Cornish clotted cream, but I'm watching.)

I'm normally a compassionate type person. But at times my compassion gets challenged. About six years ago, I gave a 350 pound endomorphic person a ride to the hospital after the ambulance took off with her husband. I'll never do that again. My truck seat smelled like old piss, shit, and stale vagina. I had to take the seat covering off and dry clean it and inject commercial odor removal fluid into the foam cushion using a syringe and 2" needle. Even after that, it took a month for the smell to completely go away.

I still remember seeing a 300lb woman in Beverly Hills with a sign that said 'Hungry' on it...

ShanwickOceanic wrote:With the rare exception of a genuine medical condition, how the hell does anyone let himself get to that stage? I'm 5'11", 200-210lbs, and already watching what I eat.

(OK, so today I've watched a massive fry-up, and I'm about to watch a whole shitload of currant buns smothered in Cornish clotted cream, but I'm watching.)

Notice that of the 3 pics I posted one person is actively eating and another has a drink at close hand. I think the only way to truly get that way is to ALWAYS be eating or "grazing" There is a reason that fountain drinks now come in such enormous sizes.

Airfoilsguy wrote:

ShanwickOceanic wrote:With the rare exception of a genuine medical condition, how the hell does anyone let himself get to that stage? I'm 5'11", 200-210lbs, and already watching what I eat.

(OK, so today I've watched a massive fry-up, and I'm about to watch a whole shitload of currant buns smothered in Cornish clotted cream, but I'm watching.)

Notice that of the 3 pics I posted one person is actively eating and another has a drink at close hand. I think the only way to truly get that way is to ALWAYS be eating or "grazing" There is a reason that fountain drinks now come in such enormous sizes.

I once made the mistake of saying, Oh, I have a 5 hour car ride. A super gulp sounds like a good plan....

I'm disappointed in myself. I've gained about 20 pounds in the past two years and it's all in my belly. I'm up to 210 pounds. I watch my diet, too. Doc says it's a side-effect of my Asperger's med and everything I've read lists weight gain as a side effect. The extra cortisol (a stress hormone) I've been spewing over the past four years hasn't helped. Cortisol-induced weight gain tends to give low-carb people a beer belly.

Mark wrote:I'm disappointed in myself. I've gained about 20 pounds in the past two years and it's all in my belly. I'm up to 210 pounds. I watch my diet, too. Doc says it's a side-effect of my Asperger's med and everything I've read lists weight gain as a side effect. The extra cortisol (a stress hormone) I've been spewing over the past four years hasn't helped. Cortisol-induced weight gain tends to give low-carb people a beer belly.

You may me technically over weight, it is the blimps that bother me. A little fat can be expected, total disregard for the human shape is a disgrace.

Mark wrote:I'm normally a compassionate type person. But at times my compassion gets challenged. About six years ago, I gave a 350 pound endomorphic person a ride to the hospital after the ambulance took off with her husband. I'll never do that again. My truck seat smelled like old piss, shit, and stale vagina. I had to take the seat covering off and dry clean it and inject commercial odor removal fluid into the foam cushion using a syringe and 2" needle. Even after that, it took a month for the smell to completely go away.

I had a bariatric patient that my partner and I had to extricate from his little "house" without help. It took us only about 7 minutes to go about 25 feet including through the stupid hallways, and he whined about having the electrodes on him, and the IV was "too painful" etc. Whatever. I about flipped out when, as we came to a corner, he asked if this was the "first time we'd done this," because we "sure sucked a$$ at it."I wanted to throw the fattie right then and there. Luckily, I gave him the standard professional response that I give to whiny aholes.

Oh yes, and he smelled bad, of course.

You know, more and more of my "cases" are fatties. It really is goddam annoying. Takes me twice as long and smells 4 times as bad. Still nothin beats the 300 pounder we pulled out of a tub in a bathroom about as wide as two phone booths.

total disregard for the human shape is a disgrace.

Round is also a shape .

BTW that first guy looks more like someone who actually only wheighs 180 or so but just got back from a good Shop-lifting job, probably that's a 40Lbs ham in his trousers and a nice loaf of bread with a chunk of Gouda cheese on his back, clever fella me thinks .

Cadet57 wrote:You know, more and more of my "cases" are fatties. It really is goddam annoying. Takes me twice as long and smells 4 times as bad. Still nothin beats the 300 pounder we pulled out of a tub in a bathroom about as wide as two phone booths.

Take a leaf out of the airlines' book and start charging for excess baggage...

ShanwickOceanic wrote:

Cadet57 wrote:You know, more and more of my "cases" are fatties. It really is goddam annoying. Takes me twice as long and smells 4 times as bad. Still nothin beats the 300 pounder we pulled out of a tub in a bathroom about as wide as two phone booths.

Take a leaf out of the airlines' book and start charging for excess baggage...

God help them if I have to order an XL casket. Hell, we had a woman last week who was being cremated. She diddnt even fit in the bloody box. We had to ducktape it shut or the crematory wouldn't take it.

Guess I'll also just mention that there is overweight, a little fat, and just shameful, of which those scooter pictures represent the latter. A lot of people have a transient fatty state. Some people, on the other hand, might as well have blowholes.

Cadet57 wrote:God help them if I have to order an XL casket. Hell, we had a woman last week who was being cremated. She diddnt even fit in the bloody box. We had to ducktape it shut or the crematory wouldn't take it.

There've been at least a couple here that have had to be cremated at the zoo because their fat asses wouldn't fit in the human-sized cremators. I shit you not.

Presumably - as with everything in the US! - you have bigger cremators than we do.

ShanwickOceanic wrote:

Cadet57 wrote:You know, more and more of my "cases" are fatties. It really is goddam annoying. Takes me twice as long and smells 4 times as bad. Still nothin beats the 300 pounder we pulled out of a tub in a bathroom about as wide as two phone booths.

Take a leaf out of the airlines' book and start charging for excess baggage...

My EMS department had a charge for each "additional crewmember." There was one time we needed six EMTs to get one guy out of his apartment. He was 400 pounds and way the FUCK back in least accessable room in the place. Why the hell do they always go to the back bedroom to decide to crash and burn? Anyway, this 400 pounder had maggots in the skin folds under his tits.

We had a 550 pounder in very poor health in our EMS district a few years ago. You know that clear amber fluid that fills burn blisters? He had it weeping through the skin of his legs all the time. When he was mobile, he'd go to one of the local coffee shops and leave a puddle of fluid under his chair. Later, when he became homebound, I actually had the job of informally informing the crews that if we ever got called to his house for a cardiac arrest to discretely NOT do CPR on him. Fortunately for the EMS department, he died alone and wasn't found for four days. The coroner had to call a contractor to cut the wall out of his house to get him out. They hauled him away in a U-Haul van; the family had the gall to complain about the lack of dignity. He wouldn't fit in their regular service vans.

Mark wrote:We had a 550 pounder in very poor health in our EMS district a few years ago. You know that clear amber fluid that fills burn blisters? He had it weeping through the skin of his legs all the time. When he was mobile, he'd go to one of the local coffee shops and leave a puddle of fluid under his chair. Later, when he became homebound, I actually had the job of informally informing the crews that if we ever got called to his house for a cardiac arrest to discretely NOT do CPR on him. Fortunately for the EMS department, he died alone and wasn't found for four days. The coroner had to call a contractor to cut the wall out of his house to get him out. They hauled him away in a U-Haul van; the family had the gall to complain about the lack of dignity. He wouldn't fit in their regular service vans.

I think you've said that before. My response to his family would've been-

"You mean he had dignity in the first place?"

Of course, that isn't very PC.

Mark wrote:

ShanwickOceanic wrote:

Cadet57 wrote:You know, more and more of my "cases" are fatties. It really is goddam annoying. Takes me twice as long and smells 4 times as bad. Still nothin beats the 300 pounder we pulled out of a tub in a bathroom about as wide as two phone booths.

Take a leaf out of the airlines' book and start charging for excess baggage...

My EMS department had a charge for each "additional crewmember." There was one time we needed six EMTs to get one guy out of his apartment. He was 400 pounds and way the FUCK back in least accessable room in the place. Why the hell do they always go to the back bedroom to decide to crash and burn? Anyway, this 400 pounder had maggots in the skin folds under his tits.

We had a 550 pounder in very poor health in our EMS district a few years ago. You know that clear amber fluid that fills burn blisters? He had it weeping through the skin of his legs all the time. When he was mobile, he'd go to one of the local coffee shops and leave a puddle of fluid under his chair. Later, when he became homebound, I actually had the job of informally informing the crews that if we ever got called to his house for a cardiac arrest to discretely NOT do CPR on him. Fortunately for the EMS department, he died alone and wasn't found for four days. The coroner had to call a contractor to cut the wall out of his house to get him out. They hauled him away in a U-Haul van; the family had the gall to complain about the lack of dignity. He wouldn't fit in their regular service vans.

Oh lord the smell must have been awful. What did the ME bag him in? A pool cover?

Lucas wrote:

Mark wrote:I'm normally a compassionate type person. But at times my compassion gets challenged. About six years ago, I gave a 350 pound endomorphic person a ride to the hospital after the ambulance took off with her husband. I'll never do that again. My truck seat smelled like old piss, shit, and stale vagina. I had to take the seat covering off and dry clean it and inject commercial odor removal fluid into the foam cushion using a syringe and 2" needle. Even after that, it took a month for the smell to completely go away.

I had a bariatric patient that my partner and I had to extricate from his little "house" without help. It took us only about 7 minutes to go about 25 feet including through the stupid hallways, and he whined about having the electrodes on him, and the IV was "too painful" etc. Whatever. I about flipped out when, as we came to a corner, he asked if this was the "first time we'd done this," because we "sure sucked a$$ at it."I wanted to throw the fattie right then and there. Luckily, I gave him the standard professional response that I give to whiny aholes.

Oh yes, and he smelled bad, of course.

I remember an incident some years ago in Berlin. A fatty woman got stuck in her bathtub and couldn't get out anymore, so the fire brigade was called (they ended up smashing the bathtub with a sledge hammer). Now, since the woman was stuck there too long, she collapsed, so an ambulance had to come too. the paramedics decided to get her to hospital.
For the following a little explanation about older city houses in Berlin:
Many of the houses built around 1900 in the formerly more fashionable inner city districts of Berlin used to have huge apartments for rich families with servants. There would be a representative stairwell in front for his lordship and family, while the servants used a second, narrow stairwell in the back leading to the tradesmen´s entrance.
After WW2 there were not many rich families around anymore who could live in such a style, so the landlords had the formerly big apartments divided into two by building a wall through them, with the one in front using the main stairwell, while the one in the back used the old servant´s stairwell. The apartment where this woman lived was one of them.
The woman was too heavy to be carried down the rear stairwell, so the fire brigade called their big crane, which is normally used e.g. to salvage trucks after road crashes and removed a window facing the street. Then the stretcher was hooked up to the crane and the woman was lifted out from her window using the crane.

Jan

Arniepie wrote:

total disregard for the human shape is a disgrace.

Round is also a shape .

BTW that first guy looks more like someone who actually only wheighs 180 or so but just got back from a good Shop-lifting job, probably that's a 40Lbs ham in his trousers and a nice loaf of bread with a chunk of Gouda cheese on his back, clever fella me thinks .

This guy must not have seen his dick for years. We have a guy in human resources who has a similar shape. Very hard to get him move away from his desk chair, but when the baker´s van honks it´s horn outside the hangar, you´ll better get out of the way or he´ll stampede right over you. Oh, and never get between him and a glass of Weizenbier.

Jan

Lucas wrote:I had a bariatric patient that my partner and I had to extricate from his little "house" without help. It took us only about 7 minutes to go about 25 feet including through the stupid hallways, and he whined about having the electrodes on him, and the IV was "too painful" etc. Whatever. I about flipped out when, as we came to a corner, he asked if this was the "first time we'd done this," because we "sure sucked a$$ at it."I wanted to throw the fattie right then and there. Luckily, I gave him the standard professional response that I give to whiny aholes.

Oh yes, and he smelled bad, of course.

A guy I worked with had a personal injury case where a huge guy had fallen in the tub of some motel. He was on the second floor and there were pictures in the file of the rescue personnel using a crane to lower him off the balcony...

Some fat woman yelled at me in the grocery when I kind of whipped my buggy around her motorcart to get to a checkout line opening up. My wife told her to "shut up, it's your own fault for having such a fat ass..." I thought the fat lady was going to have a stroke... The checkout girl about fell down laughing...

I love fighting my way through the aisles at Safeway with these people

Most of these people would be fine with a cane, no need for a cart that beeps when it backs up like a garbage truck or something.

I certainly do not allow them any special treatment ie: I won't let them get in front of me on the cereal aisle, they can wait like everyone else.

On the flip side, I work with someone who uses a buggy like those but is not overweight at all but uses it as he was in a bad car wreck 15 years ago and has very limited ability to walk. I have 0 problem with that, but some of these fat asses need to walk and essentially help themselves.

One thing I noticed during my short stay in the US in 2001 (Dallas, texas and San Jose, California):
There are very little "average" people around. Either the people you see are very athletic (and you´ll know by seeing them that they are jogging, working out or doing physical work regularly several times a week) or they are at least overweight, if not obese.
There seem to be very few people you would consider "normal" in central to southern Europe or East Asia: not particularly athletic, but also not fat (especially concerning women under 50, the further south you´ll go in Europe the more they are interested in keeping their shape under control).

Jan (1.80m / 6 ft, 85kgs / 190lbs)

MD11Engineer wrote:One thing I noticed during my short stay in the US in 2001 (Dallas, texas and San Jose, California):
There are very little "average" people around. Either the people you see are very athletic (and you´ll know by seeing them that they are jogging, working out or doing physical work regularly several times a week) or they are at least overweight, if not obese.
There seem to be very few people you would consider "normal" in central to southern Europe or East Asia: not particularly athletic, but also not fat (especially concerning women under 50, the further south you´ll go in Europe the more they are interested in keeping their shape under control).

Jan (1.80m / 6 ft, 85kgs / 190lbs)

It varies from state to state. In Ohio there are a lot of fatties. In Florida, not so much.