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L-188 19 Aug 09, 05:57Post
Hey guys.

Went to a family memorial picnic for my late grandfather this weekend.

Anyway the discussion went to a plane crash he was in in Haines, Alaska in the mid-1950's when working as a US Marshall. He was escorting a prisoner out of Haines in a USCG HU-16 that accordin to family legend hooked a float and crashed on take-off. He and a couple of the crew members where able to crawl out on a float and wait an hour or so until boats could get out there to rescue them (it was Feb.)

Anyway, does anybody know where I can scratch around and find any sort of "official" investiation paperwork on the crash. I know that they lost the prisoner, and I think at least one of the Albatross crewmen.

Thanks..
L-188 20 Aug 09, 06:33Post
Hey guys.

Did a bit of internet surfing after work.

Did find out the aircraft number was 2121. And confirmed the crash date as December 14th, 1954.

Still haven't figured out who to bark at to get a copy of an offical crash report though....Any ideas?
Zak (netAirspace FAA) 20 Aug 09, 07:14Post
All I did find was this:

Date of incident: 14 December 1954

Crash related deaths:
AL1 Clifford E. Habecker
AD1 Andrew P. Turnier
AL3 Doyle E. Jahn

Air Station the aircraft and/or crew were assigned to:
Air Station Annette, Alaska

Aircraft type and Coast Guard tail number:
Grumman UF-1G Albatross, 2121*

Location of the incident:
Haines, Alaska

Description of the incident:
UF-1G 2121 was flown from Annette, Alaska to Haines, Alaska on 14 December 1954 to perform a medical evacuation. The aircraft crashed during a water take-off, possibly due to a layer of ice which had built up on its wing during the wait for the patient to be delivered.

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Source: http://www.check-six.com/lib/Coast_Guar ... s.htm#1950

Somewhat identical:

Date of incident:
14 December 1954

Names of personnel killed in the incident:
AL1 Clifford E. Habecker
AD1 Andrew P. Tournier
AL3 Doyle E. Jahn
Fred Harrington (passenger--medical patient)

Air Station the aircraft and/or crew were assigned to:
AIRSTA Annette

Aircraft type and Coast Guard tail number (if applicable):
Grumman UF-1G [HU-16E] Albatross, 2121

Location of the incident:
Haines, Alaska

Description of the incident:
UF-1G 2121 was flown from Annette, Alaska to Haines, Alaska on 14 December 1954 to perform a medical evacuation. The aircraft crashed during a water take-off, possibly due to a layer of ice that had built up on its wing during the wait for the patient to be delivered.

http://www.uscg.mil/history/AviationCasualties.asp

My best idea would be to contact the staff of both websites and ask if they could provide additional sources.
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mark5388916 20 Aug 09, 08:01Post
Maybe a FOIA Request in to the USCG might help. Or e-mail any museums of theres that might keep records, they tend to be helpful.

Mark
L-188 21 Aug 09, 03:25Post
Thanks for checking Zak.

Those where about the same links I came up with.

I don't buy the explaination of the mission. My understanding was that it was move a prisoner out of Haines. My late Grandfather was the US Marshall escorting him at the time. He surived the crash but lost the prisoner.

I need to check up with the local Juneau paper, apparently there is a shot of him being offloaded on a stretcher after the recovery. Legend has they spent over an hour in the water after the crash.
bhmbaglock 21 Aug 09, 04:31Post
L-188 wrote:I don't buy the explaination of the mission. My understanding was that it was move a prisoner out of Haines. My late Grandfather was the US Marshall escorting him at the time. He surived the crash but lost the prisoner.


Could be both are true. It's not unheard of for a prisoner to be transported for medical treatment. Of course, having a US Marshall do it by seaplane makes it a little more unusual unless maybe he needed medical treatment for damage done to him while being caught for example.
L-188 21 Aug 09, 05:43Post
bhmbaglock wrote:
L-188 wrote:I don't buy the explaination of the mission. My understanding was that it was move a prisoner out of Haines. My late Grandfather was the US Marshall escorting him at the time. He surived the crash but lost the prisoner.


Could be both are true. It's not unheard of for a prisoner to be transported for medical treatment. Of course, having a US Marshall do it by seaplane makes it a little more unusual unless maybe he needed medical treatment for damage done to him while being caught for example.


Could be, one of the reasons I want to see the report.
Zak (netAirspace FAA) 21 Aug 09, 10:54Post
I guess here is the explanation for the patient / prisoner thing.
A few more details on the crash as well.

Haines, AK Coast Guard Plane Crash, Dec 1954

FOUR MEN KILLED IN PLANE CRASH AT HAINES YESTERDAY.

Haines (AP) -- Four men, including a strait-jacketed mental patient being flown to Juneau for hospitalization apparently were killed yesterday in the crash of a Coast Guard amphibious plane during a take-off from Haines harbor.

Seven men were aboard the plane when it cracked up and four of them were taken from the water within an hour while three still are missing. Injuries received in the crash took the life of AL1 CLIFFORD E. HABECKER, 34, Pittsford, N.Y., a coastguaradsman.

Still missing are FRED HARRINGTON, the mental patient from Haines, and two other coastguardsmen
AD1 ANDREW P. TURNIER, 39, Landsdowne, Pa., and AL3 DOYLE E. JAHN, 21, Roseland, Nebr.
Although search still is continuing for these men virtually no hope is held they will be found alive.

Survivors are Lt. Cmdr. FREDERICK J. HANCOX, 34, the pilot, of Reading, Pa.; Lt. WILLIAM P. BUTLER, 25, Hyattsville, Md., the co-pilot and U.S. deputy marshall DARRELL MILLER, Juneau.

HANCOX'S condition was listed as fair and BUTLER'S as critical. MILLER, escorting HARRINGTON to Juneau, suffered only slight injuries.

The plane was from the Annette Island Coast Guard station and was taking off when the crackup occurred. It was not determined whether the craft had left the water or struck some submerged object.

The survivors were taken from the water by fishermen.

The Coast Guard cutter Storis was due to arrive in Juneau this afternoon with the survivors and HABECKER'S body.

Rescuers said the plane fell in Portage bay and remained afloat almost 30 minutes before sinking nose first in 400 feet of water.

The Coast Guard tender Citrus is remaining at Haines to continue the search for the missing men.

The survivors will be taken to St. Anne's hospital in Juneau.

Daily Sitka Sentinel Alaska 1954-12-15

http://www3.gendisasters.com/alaska/126 ... h-dec-1954
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L-188 21 Aug 09, 14:34Post
Zak wrote:I guess here is the explanation for the patient / prisoner thing.
A few more details on the crash as well.

Haines, AK Coast Guard Plane Crash, Dec 1954

FOUR MEN KILLED IN PLANE CRASH AT HAINES YESTERDAY.

Haines (AP) -- Four men, including a strait-jacketed mental patient being flown to Juneau for hospitalization apparently were killed yesterday in the crash of a Coast Guard amphibious plane during a take-off from Haines harbor.

Seven men were aboard the plane when it cracked up and four of them were taken from the water within an hour while three still are missing. Injuries received in the crash took the life of AL1 CLIFFORD E. HABECKER, 34, Pittsford, N.Y., a coastguaradsman.

Still missing are FRED HARRINGTON, the mental patient from Haines, and two other coastguardsmen
AD1 ANDREW P. TURNIER, 39, Landsdowne, Pa., and AL3 DOYLE E. JAHN, 21, Roseland, Nebr.
Although search still is continuing for these men virtually no hope is held they will be found alive.

Survivors are Lt. Cmdr. FREDERICK J. HANCOX, 34, the pilot, of Reading, Pa.; Lt. WILLIAM P. BUTLER, 25, Hyattsville, Md., the co-pilot and U.S. deputy marshall DARRELL MILLER, Juneau.

HANCOX'S condition was listed as fair and BUTLER'S as critical. MILLER, escorting HARRINGTON to Juneau, suffered only slight injuries.

The plane was from the Annette Island Coast Guard station and was taking off when the crackup occurred. It was not determined whether the craft had left the water or struck some submerged object.

The survivors were taken from the water by fishermen.

The Coast Guard cutter Storis was due to arrive in Juneau this afternoon with the survivors and HABECKER'S body.

Rescuers said the plane fell in Portage bay and remained afloat almost 30 minutes before sinking nose first in 400 feet of water.

The Coast Guard tender Citrus is remaining at Haines to continue the search for the missing men.

The survivors will be taken to St. Anne's hospital in Juneau.

Daily Sitka Sentinel Alaska 1954-12-15

http://www3.gendisasters.com/alaska/126 ... h-dec-1954


THANKS ZAK!!!!

My grandfathers name is on the survivor list!

First detailed explaination I have seen.
 

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