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Off-Duty Jumpseater Tries To Crash AS E175

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IFEMaster (Project Dark Overlord & Founding Member) 23 Oct 23, 19:42Post
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Echoes of Germanwings. Bro is facing 83 counts of attempted murder.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67177294
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein
Lucas (netAirspace ATC & Founding Member) 23 Oct 23, 20:47Post
So much for controller FAM flights ever returning, even though it's 50/50 that we'd maybe help wrestle the deranged suicide pilot into submission rather than be the one trying to crash the thing.
DXing 23 Oct 23, 21:16Post
There's got to be more to the story than we're hearing now. In other, published stories, it's reported that he tried to pull the fire handles. That's probably a 1 second move at most. Kudo's to the crew for first, stopping him, secondly, being able to get him off the flight deck without the aircraft going through wild swings.

Lucas wrote:So much for controller FAM flights ever returning, even though it's 50/50 that we'd maybe help wrestle the deranged suicide pilot into submission rather than be the one trying to crash the thing.


In those two pilots future, NO ONE who they don't personally know and can vouch for will probably ever sit in the jumpseat of the aircraft they are commanding.
What's the point of an open door policy if inside the open door sits a closed mind?
Lucas (netAirspace ATC & Founding Member) 23 Oct 23, 21:47Post
DXing wrote:
In those two pilots future, NO ONE who they don't personally know and can vouch for will probably ever sit in the jumpseat of the aircraft they are commanding.


I've had some pilots trying to get me in the cockpit on certain routes as our working group redoes some airspace. No luck so far.
ShyFlyer (Founding Member) 26 Oct 23, 06:05Post
This incident won't do any favors for the push to get the FAA to let go of it's arcane view of mental health issues. I've seen some calling for even more stringent psychological screening. Not that it's a bad idea, but as it stands now the FAA could pull your medical should you admit to crying during the movie Old Yeller.

The current version of events leading up to this is that the Jumpseater was dealing with depression and, being unsuccessful, tried "mushrooms" to self medicate. Stupid decision, of course.

I think the attempted murder charges will eventually be dropped. The reckless endangerment charges will stick, along with endangerment of an aircraft. He'll never fly again, professionally or otherwise.
Make Orwell fiction again.
DXing 28 Oct 23, 17:02Post
Imagine how this would have gone if we were in the single pilot cockpit that some are advocating for?

Also have to wonder if it will drive a change to the fire handles operation? Guards, or some sort of lock mechanism that only unlocks when fire is actually detected with a manual override near the outside wall knee of the pilots?
What's the point of an open door policy if inside the open door sits a closed mind?
 

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