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DXing 05 Jan 23, 00:43Post
Well I have a question...

[url]BBC News - Birmingham doctor saves man's life on London to India flight
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b ... m-64153674[/url]

Evidently it was a flight out of London on Air India. Where along the route would they be more than 5 hours from an airfield with nearby cardiac medical care?
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HT-ETNW 05 Jan 23, 19:13Post
Really strange that the flight was not diverting.
Any countries, other than Afghanistan, too *unfriendly* to Air India to make diverting into one of their airports a "no go" ?
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Mark 06 Jan 23, 20:46Post
Yeah... I'm surprised there wasn't a divert to the first city with an airliner-capable airport and a hospital regardless of whether it was while coming or going. Any hospital can handle a cardiac arrest, whether CPR is in progress or a pulse was been re-established.

Regarding the medical kit on airliners, I've seen the insides of those kits and it's true they contain most of the same cardiac arrest meds as found in a hospital crash cart. One thing I do wish they contained were pulse oximeters (which cost only $25 at a Walgreens). I also wish the defibrillator was of the semi-automatic type.

The defibrillators on airliners are AED (automated external defibrillator) type. A semi-automatic defibrillator has a selector switch (often as a key-controlled type) to make the AED into a hospital-type manual defibrillator with an EKG monitor and another selector switch to change the amount of energy to be delivered per shock. Without turning the key switch, a semi-automatic defibrillator functions like an AED.

I was called to action as a nurse on a trip from ORD to LHR in 2005. As stated, I learned those med kits have almost everything a medical professional needs. In my case, the patient was having a panic attack. After a few minutes of talking to a doctor on the ground, I was able to get the patient's condition under control with a little Valium.
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captoveur 10 Jan 23, 15:33Post
Mark wrote:The defibrillators on airliners are AED (automated external defibrillator) type. A semi-automatic defibrillator has a selector switch (often as a key-controlled type) to make the AED into a hospital-type manual defibrillator with an EKG monitor and another selector switch to change the amount of energy to be delivered per shock. Without turning the key switch, a semi-automatic defibrillator functions like an AED.


No one is training the FAs to operate that stuff, or administer real drugs. I doubt the average FA has much first aid training beyond the Red Cross basic first aid course. Those certs alone can be a pain in the butt to keep on top of when 99% of what you do is apply a band-aid.
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Mark 10 Jan 23, 22:02Post
captoveur wrote:
Mark wrote:The defibrillators on airliners are AED (automated external defibrillator) type. A semi-automatic defibrillator has a selector switch (often as a key-controlled type) to make the AED into a hospital-type manual defibrillator with an EKG monitor and another selector switch to change the amount of energy to be delivered per shock. Without turning the key switch, a semi-automatic defibrillator functions like an AED.


No one is training the FAs to operate that stuff, or administer real drugs. I doubt the average FA has much first aid training beyond the Red Cross basic first aid course. Those certs alone can be a pain in the butt to keep on top of when 99% of what you do is apply a band-aid.


The drugs and equipment aren't necessarily for the FA's to give. They're for nurses and doctors that happen to be on board to give.
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captoveur 11 Jan 23, 18:09Post
Mark wrote:

The drugs and equipment aren't necessarily for the FA's to give. They're for nurses and doctors that happen to be on board to give.


That's pretty bold of the airline to assume someone is going to put their license and insurance on the line.
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Mark 11 Jan 23, 18:21Post
captoveur wrote:
Mark wrote:

The drugs and equipment aren't necessarily for the FA's to give. They're for nurses and doctors that happen to be on board to give.


That's pretty bold of the airline to assume someone is going to put their license and insurance on the line.


Like they say, can't kill a dead man.

Besides...

https://www.thriveap.com/blog/medical-a ... ility-risk
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